lördag 26 mars 2016
The Penitents of Each would be Equally Absolved
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Quote from Liguori.
If Christ and a priest were both hearing confession in a Church, both would say "ego te absolvo" over penitents, and the penitents of each are equally absolved.
Is this blasphemy?
"Who but God can forgive sins?"
Well, but the thing is the priest does not claim to have such power from himself, but from - Christ. Whom the pastor I am listening to* clearly admits is God and clearly admits had the power and clearly admits had the right to say "thy sins are forgiven" to the lame man.
Tomorrow evening, Gospel of John, chapter 20, verses 21, 22, 23:
 He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.  When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost.  Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
Christ - that is God - claims the Apostles can forgive sins, like God. Even claims they are sent to save the World, like He was of the Father; so they are not blaspheming, because they are obeying.
St Alphons Liguori was not blaspheming, because he had the power to forgive by a "laying on of hands" or ordination, from a bishop, who had this power from the Apostles.
Three Biblical Apostles and Disciples at least worked in Italy at some or other time. Sts Peter and Paul, who were martyred in Rome. St Barnabas founded Church of Bergamo by consecrating its bishop St Narn.**
There is no doubt whatsover that St Alphons Maria Liguori had privileged access to apostolic succession. Geographically privileged, that is. A Catholic priest in Sweden or US also has Apostolic Sucession***.
No, St Alphons was not blasp^heming.
Hans Georg Lundahl
* On a youtube which offers no comment section. ** Narnus meant from the city Narnia. So, when CSL wrote seven chronicles of a land called so, he chose a very August city as name giver. Church of Bergamo founded by St Narn through consecration by St Barnabas, St Francis made a miracle there (it's close to Assisi and Aquino) and Nerva, who delivered St John from Pathmos was also a "Narn". *** At least unless passing through new rite of ordination, as per Vatican II aftermath.