tisdag 5 januari 2021

Waldensians and National Socialists


A few weeks ago, a Ruckmanite argued, that, thanks to Beza, we know Waldensians were around since AD 120, and that they used the "Italic version" or what is known as "Itala".

I argued that it was funny that a King Jamesist would support the Itala, since prior to Vulgate Latin translation (I actually called it Itala) was based on LXX, not on proto-Masoretic (if I may call it so) or Aquila.

I was wrong about Itala. It is actually Vetus Latina that is based on LXX. Vetus Latina being the pre-Vulgate Latin Old Testament. Itala was the pre-Vulgate Latin New Testament.

In other words, claiming that Waldensians "used the Itala" means claiming that they limited the Bible to the New Testament.

I think you may see where the title is heading now.

The Nazis had made agreements with the Catholic Church to stop interfering


In fact, interfering by promoting a certain party, the Zentrum (which was dissolved by this agreement, and low ranking National Socialists were no longer excommunicated). They had not agree to stop making comments.

and set up the National Reich Church to ensure that protestantism had a Nazi message. However despite this there were pockets of opposition among them.


I thought the Reich Church was already there since the Bismarck Reich, while the National Socialist message was through Deutsche Christen, though even these predated National Socialism, but go on ...

The first was the Pastors’ Emergency League. ... They also fought to keep the Old Testament being used in Church services as the Nazis saw it as a link to Judaism.


Ah, yes, Deutsche Christen had tried to suppress reading from the Old Testament ... they would have approved Waldensians having the Itala, but not the Vetus Latina. For the moment, I cannot find a reference if they actually did so.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Vigil of the Lord's Epiphany
5.I.2021

Sorry for fatigue, I can give the reference for the quotes I did give about NS and Protestants:

Religious Opposition
Levels: GCSEExam boards: AQA, Edexcel, OCR
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https://www.tutor2u.net/history/reference/religious-opposition

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