måndag 27 november 2017

Validity (if Not Licitness) of Some, Not All, Non-Catholic Sacraments (quora)


Q
Do Catholics believe that the bread and wine also become the body and blood of Christ during masses and services from other Christian denominations?
https://www.quora.com/Do-Catholics-believe-that-the-bread-and-wine-also-become-the-body-and-blood-of-Christ-during-masses-and-services-from-other-Christian-denominations/answer/Hans-Georg-Lundahl


ARq
Answer requested by João Paulo Cavalcante

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Studied religions as curious parallels and contrasts to Xtian faith since 9, 10?
Answered just now
With Orthodox, Coptic and Nestorian priests, as well as some later schismatics from Catholics : yes.

With Protestants : no.

Protestantism made a point of changing the rite so as to exclude sacrifice of the Mass. This makes Protestant “masses” (Lutherans and Anglicans use the word) and “Lord’s suppers” invalid, sacrilegious and excluding the Real Presence.

This is also the case with the Protestant denominations where all (Lutherans) or a group (Anglo-Catholics among Anglicans) believe the Real Presence, as long as they use liturgies excluding Sacrifice of the Mass and clergy where ordination has not passed by a bishop in continuity with those who do believe Sacrifice of the Mass, at least, if not necessarily Catholic.

This is what Ratzinger (Antipope Benedict XVI, but correct on this one) meant when he distinguished between Churches and Ecclesial Communities outside the One True Church.